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FIFTH HOUSE NEPTUNE

The House of Offspring - The field of personal self-expression.

Projection of the self into the world. Children. Artistic creations. Displays. Speculation. Love affairs. Games, amusements, and recreations. "Brain" children. Hobbies. Talents. Pleasures.

The person with Neptune in the fifth house has a natural affinity for show business. They respond to the lure of movies, theaters, nightspots, casinos, and all beguilements which feature the casting of illusions.

They may undergo peculiar experiences with regard to matters of the heart. Chaotic love affairs and sexual misadventures can leave a bitter residue of regrets for having surrendered to the impulse of the moment.

This position of Neptune may also indicate an unusual child or some obscure problem with regard to offspring. In some cases it impels an individual to care for children who are retarded, deformed, or in need of special attention.

 

Astrology, the Divine Science




 

NEPTUNE IN THE FIFTH HOUSE

Liz Greene

The fifth house is traditionally associated with children and creativity. But the 'children' of the 5th house are not necessarily biological, and our biological children are represented here not in the context of our capacity for parenting, but as those physical creations upon which we project our inner images of immortality and specialness.

The fifth house might more appropriately be called the house of the inner child, for it is the archetypal image of the divine child that stands behind the specialness associated with the Sun, the natural ruler of the 5th, and the urge to play and express our childlike hearts. The 5th house is thus as 'religious' as the 9th, and perhaps more so, since the pursuit of meaning as reflected by the 9th is largely intellectual in nature, while the experience of inner divinity, which we encounter through the 5th, in both our children and our creative efforts, is direct, unmediated, and irrefutable.

The divine child whom we meet when Neptune is in the fifth is the Christ-child, the Mithras child, the progeny of heaven and the source for our redemption. Creative expression may thus become a means of salvation, for through it we can leave the darkness of the material world and enter into union with the source of life. But in order to pursue this kind of creative spirit we may feel impelled to suffer; for creativity allied to a 5th house Neptune carries with it the poignant vision of the Romantic poets. The artist must suffer for his or her creation, and is redeemed by it; yet the artist is also the mouthpiece for the divine, and carries the role of the redeemer of society. Total immersion in the imaginal realm constitutes fusion with the deity; re-emerging into ordinary life is an expulsion from Eden, and a kind of death.  

The fifth house is also known as the house of love. Love as described by the 5th is, however, a reflection of the Sun as life-giver, and not specifically sexual; nor is it a relationship between equals. Solar love is an unbounded radiance which pours out toward people and objects as the Sun itself shines upon the Earth. Our 5th house 'love affairs' are not really concerned with other people as individuals. We embark upon them in order to experience our lovingness toward those who orbit around us as the Earth does around the Sun.

Through our recognition of our own capacity to love, we glimpse that which is godlike in ourselves. Neptune in the 5th conjures the love of the troubadours, for whom the beloved is a mirror, and the experience of passion is a gateway to union with the ineffable; the lover himself or herself hardly matters. Neptune is the 5th is described as 'a love of beauty and art...wastefulness, self-glorification, misdirected passion, seduction.' It is hardly surprising that Neptune's passion might be 'misdirected', as the other person is merely a mirror in which the individual glimpses the immortality of his or her own soul.

With such a profound idealization of love, one is likely to display a certain lack of discrimination in one's choices. Neptune in the 5th may be utterly in love with being in love. Yet love and suffering may live side by side, for it is through the experience of love that we, the suffering ones, are redeemed, and offer redemption to others who suffer. Neptune in the 5th is sometimes linked with deception in love, either as perpetrator or victim. This is also not surprising; due to the extreme idealization and propensity for disillusionment which Neptune brings to romantic encounters.

When Neptune is in the 5th, creative outlets are essential, for real people such as lovers and offspring cannot carry the mythic idealizations of Neptune without eventually falling off their pedestals.

Neptune’s compassion and sensitivity may reflect a gift for interacting with children, and not only one’s own. But the planet’s most benign expression in the natural house of the Sun is ultimately through those creative vehicles which can offer an immediate experience of the mystery which lies embedded within the sense of ‘I’. ‘Children’, ‘speculation’, and ‘love-affairs’ seem easier - at least initially - because they are instinctive and do not require self-reflection.

Creative work demands the discipline of Saturn and the self-definition of the Sun, which Neptune resists. Yet, paradoxically, it is through creative effort that Neptune’s redemptive longing can be fulfilled, at least in part, through discovering the divine child within.

 

The Astrological Neptune

and the Quest for Redemption

 

Mindfire